2004 Honda Odyssey Brakes Problems

THE BRAKES ARE WAY TOO SOFT! I ALMOST HIT A KID IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I COULD NOT STOP AS QUICKLY AS I SHOULD HAVE GOING 30MPH. I HAVE TO PUSH THE BRAKES ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR IT IS INSANE. I HAVE HAD THE BRAKES BLED, NEW PADS PUT IN, NEW CALIPERS PUT IN AND NO FIX HAS WORKED.

THE BRAKE WARNING LAMP CAN ILLUMINATE, INDICATING A LOW BRAKE FLUID CONDITION, ALTHOUGH NO LEAKING BRAKE FLUID IS VISIBLE THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. A WORN REAR MASTER CYLINDER SEAL CAN CAUSE FLUID TO LEAK INTO THE BRAKE BOOSTER, WHICH WILL CAUSE DIMINISHED BRAKE PERFORMANCE OVER TIME. THERE IS ALREADY A RECALL ISSUED FOR THIS SAME ISSUE ON 2005-2007 ODYSSEYS, BUT I BELIEVE IT ALSO APPLIES TO 2004 ODYSSEYS.

THE BRAKE PEDAL PUSHES ALMOST TO THE FLOOR BEFORE THE VAN RESPONDS TO BRAKING. I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE PROCEDURES DONE ON THE BRAKES BY SEVERAL MECHANICS AND IT HAS NOT FIXED THE PROBLEM. I USUALLY PUMP THE BRAKES WHEN I AM STOPPING BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE BRAKING SYSTEM AND BY DOING THIS, THE BRAKING SYSTEM RESPONDS BETTER. IT HAPPENS AT ALL SPEEDS. I PURCHASED THIS VAN USED IN 2008 AND I NOTICED THE MUSHY BRAKES AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE AND WAS TOLD THAT THE BRAKES WERE FINE. THE DEALER SAID HONDAS' BRAKES ARE KNOWN TO BE MUSHY. THE BRAKES HAVE GOTTEN NOTICEABLY WORSE OVER THE YEARS. *TR

BRAKING IS "SOFT" OR BRAKE PEDAL HAS TO BE PUSHED VERY LOW BEFORE BRAKES WILL ENGAGE. I HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS AND HAD THE BRAKES CHECKED NUMEROUS TIMES AND NO ONE CAN FIX IT. *TR

DT*: THE CONTACT STATED THE BRAKE PEDAL OF THE VEHICLE STARTED ROCKING LEFT TO RIGHT WHEN DEPRESSED, EVEN IF THE VEHICLE WAS IMMOBILE OR AT ANY SPEED. NO WARNING LIGHT WERE ILLUMINATED PRIOR TO THE INCIDENT. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALERSHIP WHO DETERMINED THE BRAKE PEDAL ROCKING MOVEMENT WAS NORMAL. THE CONTACT WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE IT COULD BE CONNECTED WITH OTHER UNNOTICED SAFETY PROBLEMS. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE SLIDING DOOR ACTUATOR WAS REPLACED. THE SIDE DOOR SEPAKER WAS REPLACED. UPDATED 12/01/06. *JB

MULTIPLE FAILURES. BRAKES PROBLEM, TRANSMISSION, ROUGH IDLE & ENGINE SURGING, STEERING COLUMN CONTROLS AND OTHERS. *BF THE AUTOMATIC DOOR WOULD NOT OPEN OR CLOSE, THE TRANSMISSION DID NOT SHIFT PROPERLY AND THE DEALER WAS UNABLE TO DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM. THE BRAKE PEDAL SHUTTERED, THE BRAKES WOULD CATCH WITHOUT BEING APPLIED. THE CONSUMER WAS TOLD THE STEERING COLUMN CONTROL SWITCH HAD A SHORT, HOWEVER THE NEXT DAY THE HORN HONKED AND THERE WAS AN ODD NOISE IN THE STEERING COLUMN AND THE INTERIOR LIGHTS FLASHED MULTIPLE TIMES. *JB

WHILE APPLYING PRESSURE ON THE BRAKE PEDAL TO REDUCE THE SPEED BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC WAS SLOWING DOWN VEHICLE IN FRONT OF ME STOPPED ABRUPTLY. I APPLIED MORE AND MORE PRESSURE ON THE BRAKES, AND NOTHING HAPPENED. VEHICLE WAS NOT STOPPING ANY FASTER. I DID NOT PUMP THE BRAKES SINCE ODYSSEY HAS ABS AND THEY DID NOT KICK IN THOUGH I APPLIED A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE BRAKES. *AK I COLLIDED WITH THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF ME AND AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. PRIOR TO THIS INCIDENT I WAS ABLE TO STOP THE CAR FASTER.

WHILE DRIVING 65 MPH CONSUMER APPLIED THE BRAKES AND BRAKE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR. CONSUMER WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE, AND PULLED OVER. THEN, CONSUMER NOTICED THAT SMOKE WAS COMING FROM THE PASSENGER'S SIDE WHEEL. THE DRIVER HAD THE VEHICLE TOWED TO THE DEALER FOR INSPECTION, AND MECHANIC DETERMINED THAT PASSENGER SIDE BRAKE PAD NEEDED TO BE REPLACED DUE TO WORN OUT PARTS. *AK