2005 Honda Pilot Electronic Stability Control Esc Service Brakes Problems

MY CAR WAS NOT PART OF THE HONDA PILOT VSA RECALL (HTTPS://WWW.EDMUNDS.COM/CAR-NEWS/HONDA-RECALLS-182000-VEHICLES-FOR-FAULTY-VEHICLE-STABILITY-ASSIST-SYSTEM.HTML) BUT IT IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID WAS A PROBLEM IN 182000 OTHER VEHICLES. THE VSA WARNING LIGHT COMES ON + STAYS ON WHEN THE ENGINE IS RUNNING. PLEASE HELP. I DID NOT RECIEVE NOTICE THAT MY VEHICLE WAS RECALLED AND IT DOES NOT SHOW . ON YOUR WEB SITE EITHER

CAR WILL APPLY BRAKE TO ITSELF CAUSIN A SWERVE OR A JERK AND THE VSA LIGHT WILL COME ON AND AS SSON AS U TURN OFF THE IGNITION THE LIGHT WILL TURN OFF. AND WILL HAPPEN AGAIN WHEN IT WANTS TOO. ANY CAR APPKY BRAKE BY ITSELF IS UNSAFE AND WILL CAUSE A ACCIDENT ESPECIALLY WHEN DRIVER HAVE NO CONTROL OF IT... THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY AND RECALLED AND FIXED. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY HONDA PILOT DOING THIS. THERE WERE QUITE A FEW

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA PILOT. THE CONTACT RECEIVED A RECALL REPAIR REMEDY FROM MCGRATH CITY HONDA (6720 W GRAND AVE, CHICAGO, IL 60707, 773-889-3030) TO ADDRESS THE VSA, BUT THE REMEDY FAILED TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION. THE CONTACT LATER EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL INVOLUNTARY BRAKING WITH THE STEERING PULLING TO THE RIGHT FOR A BRIEF MOMENT AND THEN THE VSA WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER WHO STATED THAT THE CODE WAS FOR THE YAW RATE SENSOR AND THAT IT WAS NOT RELATED TO THE RECALL. THE DEALER STATED THAT FURTHER DIAGNOSTIC TESTING WAS NEEDED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 13V092000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC, TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM), AND NHTSA ACTION NUMBERS: DP12002 (ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL), PE12028 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC), AND EA13002 (ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL). THE MANUFACTURER STATED THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF A FAILURE WITH THE YAW RATRE SENSORS, BUT HAD NOT PROVIDED A RECALL REMEDY. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 225,000. *TT

DRIVING MY HONDA PILOT TRUCK EASTBOUND ON THE LEFT LANE AT ABOUT 40 MILES AN HOUR, HAD THE FOOT ON THE GAS PEDAL, THE BRAKE MADE A GROANING NOISE AND THE TRUCK STARTED TO SLOW DOWN RAPIDLY. TO A FULL STOP. THE BRAKES WENT ON AND WAS SO SCARED, BECAUSE I LOOKED UP ON MY REAR VIEW MIRROR AND THERE WAS A SUV DRIVING BEHIND ME. HE DID SEE ME , AND HE HAD TO SWERVE INTO THE OPPOSITE LANE. MY HEART SANK. HE GOT OUT OF HIS SUV AND HE STARTED TO YELL AT ME. I TOLD HIM THE TRUCK CAME TO A STOP IT MALFUNCTIONED AND THEY WERE LIGHTS ON MY DASHBOARD . AS HE WALKED AWAY BACK INTO HIS SUV AND DROVE OFF I SAT THERE. I PUT THE CAR IN PARK LOOKED AT MY MANUAL AND SHUT OFF THE VEHICLE AND TURNED IT BACK ON AND THE INDICATORS ON MY DASHBOARD WE'RE GONE. I CALLED UP MY HUSBAND TO LET HIM KNOW. BEFORE I SHUT THE CAR OFF,, TWO INDICATORS CAME ON VSA AND A WARNING SIGN. I KNOW THERE WAS A RECALL IT IN 2013 I DID GET THAT FIXED AS I TOOK IT TO A HONDA DEALERSHIP. ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO IT HAPPENED AGAIN I WAS ON THE BELT PARKWAY IN NEW YORK AND THE PILOT MADE A NOISE AND IT STOPPED ON ITS OWN THERE WERE MORE THAN TWO LIGHTS FLASHING ON MY DASHBOARD THAT DAY. AND I WAS DRIVING SLOWER ON THE PARKWAY BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC. SO, THE IMPACT WASN'T SO SCARY . TWO LIVES WERE SAVED THAT DAY. I CALLED HONDA RECALL CASE #[XXX]. SINCE MY HUSBAND HAD TO BRING HIS CAR IN TO GET FIXED I ALSO TOOK MY HONDA. THE COMPANY'S NAME IS HARDMANS AUTO ,THEY ALSO ORDER PARTS FROM THE HONDA DEALERSHIP ALSO LOCATED IN THE SAME TOWN. DID COOL HONDA AUTO SERVICE BUT THE MANAGER NAMED [XXX] HASN'T CALLED ME BACK YET. WILL CALL AGAIN TODAY TO GET MY PILOT CHECKED. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR

VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST RECALL COMPLETED IN 2013 HAS FAILED TO ADDRESS VSA ISSUES. VEHICLE WILL RANDOMLY APPLY BRAKES WHILE DRIVING IN NORMAL CONDITIONS, POSSIBLY PRESENTING A HAZARD TO DRIVER, PASSENGERS, AND OTHER VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. WHEN THE BRAKES ARE APPLIED, THE VSA LIGHT ILLUMINATES AND MUST BE RESET. THERE ARE MULTIPLE DOCUMENTED OCCURRENCES OF THIS ONLINE WITH MULTIPLE OWNER/OPERATORS, AND THE FACT THAT THE PREVIOUS RECALL HAS NOT BEEN EFFECTIVELY MUST BE ADDRESSED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA PILOT. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 50 MPH, THE VEHICLE SLIGHTY SWAYED FROM THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT WITH A SHUTTERING SENSATION. THE VSA SYSTEM WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED. THE CONTACT TURNED OFF THE VEHICLE TO DISENGAGE THE WARNING INDICATOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE CONTACT FOUND IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL THAT THE VSA WARNING WAS AN INDICATION THAT THE BRAKES AND STABILITY CONTROLS WERE EXPERIENCING A MALFUNCTION. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER AND SEVERAL FAILURE CODES APPEARED; HOWEVER, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO COMPLETELY INDICATE WHAT THE NATURE OF THE REPAIRS. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE AND OPENED A CASE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 150,000.

THIS IS AN ADDENDUM TO COMPLAINT #10734361 THE INCIDENT DATE WAS NOT CORRECT. IT WAS 2015 NOT 2014. AND SINCE THE ORIGINAL COMPLAINT, WE TOOK THE VEHICLE TO AUTO PARTS STORE & THEY CAME UP WITH 2 ERROR CODES. 25-1 YAW SENSOR MALFUNCTION & 61-1 BATTERY VOLTAGE MALFUNCTION. THESE ERROR CODES SEEM TO BE A COMMON THREAD WITH A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS FILED. ALSO, WE HAVE HAD TO REPLACE OUR ALTERNATOR & BATTERY SINCE THE RECALL SERVICE. COINCIDENCE?

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA PILOT. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 60 MPH, THE BRAKES ENGAGED INDEPENDENTLY. AS A RESULT, THE VEHICLE SWERVED FROM LEFT TO RIGHT AND THE VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS SERVICED UNDER NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 13V092000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC, TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM); HOWEVER, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE YAW RATE SENSOR NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 126,000.

I HEARD A LOUD THUMPING OR GRINDING SOUND FROM THE FRONT OF THE CAR AND THE BRAKES ENGAGED ON THEIR OWN. AT THE SAME TIME THE VEHICLE STABILITY WARNING LIGHT CAME ON (YELLOW TRIANGLE). OVER NEXT THREE WEEKS THIS HAPPENED THREE TIMES, SEEMINGLY RANDOMLY. ON ONE OCCASION THE "YAW SENSOR" CODE WAS TRIGGERED. THE VSA RECALL IN 2013 WAS PERFORMED BY THE DEALER IN 2013. *TR

THE FIRST INCIDENT HAPPENED WHILE TURNING, CAR CAME TO A STOP, JERKED THE WHEEL ALMOST HITTING ANOTHER CAR; ALL WITHOUT WARNING. A CHILD PASSENGER WAS IN THE BACK SEAT AND WAS THROWN FORWARD HITTING HER HEAD ON THE PASSENGER FRONT SEAT AND SEAT BELT LOCKED CAUSING HER TO HAVE A SEAT BELT BRUISE. VSA (LIGHT), THE VSA ACTIVATION LIGHT (TRIANGLE WITH EXCLAMATION INSIDE) WERE BOTH ILLUMINATED. SUV WAS TAKEN TO LOCAL DEALERSHIP TO PERFORM THE RECALL WORK. TWO WEEKS LATER, SAME THING BUT THIS TIME I WAS GOING ABOUT 55MPH ON HIGHWAY, SUV CAME TO ALMOST A COMPLETE STOP WITHIN A SHORT DISTANCE. GRINDING FEELING AND WITH THE VSA INDICATOR LIGHTS ON. ALMOST HIT SOMEONE WHEN THE WHEEL JERKED AND CAUSED ME TO GO INTO THE RIGHT LANE AND ALMOST HITTING SOMEONE, KIDS WERE IN THE SUV ONE IN THE PASSENGER SIDE FRONT AND THE OTHER IN BACK SAME SIDE. SEAT BELT ONCE AGAIN LEFT A BRUISE ON THEIR CHEST AND CAUSED THE FRONT PASSENGER TO HAVE STRAINED HIS NECK. THIS IS A VEHICLE THAT CAUSE GREAT CONCERN. I AM NOW AFRAID TO ALLOW MY SON TO DRIVE THIS VEHICLE WITH THIS PROBLEM CONTINUING. THE DEALERSHIP HAS SAID THAT THEY HAVE PERFORMED THE RECALL BULLETIN AND I WILL NEED TO FIX THIS ON MY OWN. THIS IS NOT SATISFACTORY AT ALL. *TR

THE BRAKES SUDDENLY APPLIED WHILE CRUISING ALONG THE INTERSTATE AT 75MPH. THE VEHICLE WAS ABLE TO BE DIRECTED OFF THE ROAD THEN THE BRAKES LOCKED UP AND VEHICLE WOULD NOT GO FORWARD. VSA LIGHT CAME ON. THIS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES LATER AT LOWER SPEEDS AND THE BRAKES WOULD LOCK UP AND VSA LIGHT WOULD COME ON. MECHANICS COULD NOT DETERMINE THE PROBLEM, SINCE IT WAS AN INTERMITTENT PROBLEM. HONDA DEALER TOLD ME THAT NO RECALLS OR ALERTS WERE ON VEHICLE. THE FRONT BRAKE ROTORS WERE MACHINED IN FEB 2012 BECAUSE THEY WERE "WARPED" AND THEN HAD TO BE REPLACED A YEAR LATER BECAUSE THE BRAKES WERE PULSATING. SINCE NOV. 2009 I HAVE HAD TO MACHINE THE REAR BRAKE ROTORS THAT WERE "WARPED" TWICE. I AM NOW USING THE VEHICLE WITH THE VSA OFF. *TR

WHILE DRIVING I WENT TO APPLY MY BRAKES TO BEGIN SLOWING DOWN, I ONLY APPLIED A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF PRESSURE WHEN A GRINDING NOISE STARTED AND LASTED ONLY A FEW SECONDS THEN A SLIGHT JERK AS IF MY CAR WAS BRAKING ON ITS OWN AND THEN A WARNING LIGHT TURNED ON (EXCLAMATION INSIDE A TRIANGLE AND THE VSA LETTERS APPEARED) THIS STAYED ON UNTIL I TURNED OFF THE CAR. THIS HAS OCCURRED NOW 4 TIMES. FORTUNATELY I ONLY HAVE TO DRIVE 5 MILES TO WORK. FIRSTLY, I AM AFRAID TO DRIVE ANY DISTANCE ESPECIALLY ON THE HIGHWAY SHOULD THIS GET WORSE AND SECONDLY I HAVE GRANDKIDS THAT I TRANSPORT AND AM CONCERNED THAT I COULD POSSIBLY BE PUTTING THEIR LIVES IN JEOPARDY!! I DO HOPE THAT SOMETHING IS DONE OR A RECALL IS MADE SO THAT THIS CAN BE FIXED. *TR

ACCELERATING AT RELATIVELY LOW SPEED, USUALLY JUST AFTER STOPPING, HEARD AUDIBLE "POP" THROUGH CAR RADIO, ABS AND EMERGENCY BRAKE LIGHTS CAME ON. CAR BRAKED RAPIDLY, EVEN THOUGH FOOT WAS ON ACCELERATOR AND NOT TOUCHING THE BRAKE PEDAL. FORCED CAR TO ALMOST A COMPLETE STOP. THIS SAME SEQUENCE OF EVENTS HAPPENED THREE TIMES WITHIN 30 MINUTES. PULLED CAR INTO PARKING LOT AND CALLED HONDA SERVICE DEPT. THEY HAD NEVER HEARD OF THIS HAPPENING AND CAR WAS TOWED IN TO RUN DIAGNOSTICS. SERVICE DEPT DROVE CAR AROUND FOR OVER THREE DAYS AND WAS UNABLE TO DUPLICATE ISSUE. THEY HAD SOME IDEAS TO CAUSE, BUT SINCE THEY COULDN'T GET IT TO REPEAT, COULD NOT FIX ANYTHING. *TR

ON THREE HOT AFTERNOONS (AROUND 75 DEGREES) THE CAR REPEATEDLY HAD PROBLEMS - MOSTLY WHEN TURNING. IT FELT LIKE THE ANTILOCK BRAKES WENT ON BY THEMSELVES EVEN THOUGH MY FOOT WAS NOT ON THE BRAKE. THE CAR QUICKLY SLOWED AND MADE GRINDING NOISES. MOST OF THE TIMES THAT IT HAPPENED, THE STABILITY CONTROL WARNING LIGHT CAME ON. IT FELT AND SOUNDED SIMILAR TO THE WAY IT STOPS ON ICY ROADS IN THE WINTER, BUT THE SLOWDOWN WAS MORE SEVERE. THE CAR SEEMED FINE DURING THE COOLER MORNING HOURS AND THE PROBLEM WORSENED AS THE TEMPERATURE ROSE. IT IS CURRENTLY SITTING AT THE HONDA DEALERSHIP WHILE THE PROBLEM IS BEING DIAGNOSED. *TT